tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post2557912426786141618..comments2023-11-02T06:50:42.777-07:00Comments on billierosie: FUCKING DEAD PEOPLEbillierosiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00288997506566830393noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-43947092270568710442010-05-04T12:34:37.595-07:002010-05-04T12:34:37.595-07:00I can't think of anything intelligent to add b...I can't think of anything intelligent to add but I really enjoyed reading it and the discussions that followed. I am though fearful about what happens after death which is completely mad as I wasn't at all worried about what happened before I was born! I guess the main thing with that is we can see what happened before we existed thanks to literature and art and films and everything else however we have ro rely on conjecture, faith or some other construction to guess about what happens when life extinguishes. Our atoms and molecules are indestructable though, we are literally children of the stars so we know our molecular make up will simply be recycled for eternity as all energy changes and transforms but is never really destroyed, its the conciousness thing that gets us all wound up. The people and friends I have known who are dead the great and the good who are dead are as dead as the starved African child who no one knew but our dust will merge, transmute, feed and nurture some other life force and that I find quite amazing and mirculous without the need to search for anything other than that. It's amazing enough without a god. <br /><br />Rambling off the point now but as ever all your writings get me thinking. Thanks love! xxViscount Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14430740088695656739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-31950577840634995752010-04-30T07:14:50.696-07:002010-04-30T07:14:50.696-07:00Yup, I think so!Yup, I think so!Janine Ashblesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00840188081214225153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-50510848699675238382010-04-28T10:08:58.670-07:002010-04-28T10:08:58.670-07:00Been reading about "The Shadow" on the w...Been reading about "The Shadow" on the web.<br /><br /> So if we don't acknowledge our Shadow -- or don't even realise it's there. The Shadow lengthens and makes us think and do bad stuff in our conscious -- is that the sort of thing Jung would mean?billierosiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288997506566830393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-4223723925164524732010-04-28T08:36:45.888-07:002010-04-28T08:36:45.888-07:00Jung? I think he'd say it had something to do ...Jung? I think he'd say it had something to do with your Shadow too.Janine Ashblesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00840188081214225153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-14915818110916959732010-04-27T18:07:24.544-07:002010-04-27T18:07:24.544-07:00Well, I read the piece, found it intriguing but ca...Well, I read the piece, found it intriguing but can't think of any sensible comment to make at the moment! There is a Tom Lehrer song in my head, however - I think the title was something like 'Your Tiny Hand is Frozen' and the lyric (from memory) includes the lines 'the night you died I cut it off / I really don't know why / for every time I kiss it / I get bloodstains on my tie'. <br />I'll post a more substantive reply as and when something comes to mind...Fulanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14959628434559905605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-43743311303178650122010-04-27T10:33:31.634-07:002010-04-27T10:33:31.634-07:00I hadn't thought about the Goths and their nec...I hadn't thought about the Goths and their necrophiliac fascination -- so thanks, Janine for bringing that to the discussion.<br /><br /> "confronting the existential vertigo of our mortality." What a marvellous sentence! Summing up our personal terror of non-existence.<br /><br />I tried very hard to find what Jung would have said about necrophilia -- but I need to do a lot more reading. Do you know what he would have said Janine?<br /><br />I had a feeling it would be something along the lines of the "Personal Unconscious" and "Individuation."billierosiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288997506566830393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8670812027273632828.post-47461416501256098102010-04-27T05:13:50.631-07:002010-04-27T05:13:50.631-07:00Hello Billierosie! Another fascinating and beautif...Hello Billierosie! Another fascinating and beautifully-researched discussion piece. Thank you for the glowing mention of my story! So...<br /><br />It's about control of a passive person? Really? I doubt that very much. Or, though that might be the case with the sort of person who kills in order to make use of the corpse (I wouldn't know, I'm not a criminal psychologist), this needs to be distinguished from the much more common Goth-aesthetic necrophiliac fascination - the skulls, the lillies, the vampires, the tombstones and the cold/decaying flesh. That's about the very opposite of control, surely - it's about confronting the existential vertigo of our mortality. We are horrified and fascinated by our own inevitable demise and the terrible things that will do to our physical body - so we have to look. We don't fantasise about controlling vampires - we fantasise about how we have NO control over them. They are stand-ins for Death itself.Janine Ashblesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00840188081214225153noreply@blogger.com